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Posted: 10/06/09 01:04 PM
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Recently I made a forum stating that 50,000 people had pre-ordered the Volt, or inquired about it. Well today Nissan decided to push there luck and started to take pre-orders themselves to see how much success they would get and it seems the lucky number is 22,000 inquiries or pre-orders. Once again depends on how you want to look at it. So there you have it folks...VOLT vs LEAF!!!


Which would you buy if you had the money...the Chevy Volt or Nissan Leaf??
Source: VOLT Source: LEAF
Life....it's not about how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit and keep pushing forward, how much you can take and keep pushing forward! - Rocky Balboa
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Posted: 10/11/09 03:02 PM
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I'd still take a pass on both if I had the *** If somebody held a gun to my head though and told me to choose one or die, I'd go with the Volt The reason I picked the Volt is simply because I have no place to recharge the Leaf. Even if I did have a place to recharge the Leaf, I still believe at this point, battery technology still isn't user friendly enough to live with an electric car. I'd still feel more comfortable paying less dollars for a Fit, Insight, Prius or a Golf TDI. Other possible fuel mizers could be the Ford Festiva, Chevy Cruze & Fiat 500
Austin Cooper
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Posted: 10/12/09 08:20 AM
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Austin.Cooper: I'd still take a pass on both if I had the *** If somebody held a gun to my head though and told me to choose one or die, I'd go with the Volt The reason I picked the Volt is simply because I have no place to recharge the Leaf. Even if I did have a place to recharge the Leaf, I still believe at this point, battery technology still isn't user friendly enough to live with an electric car. I'd still feel more comfortable paying less dollars for a Fit, Insight, Prius or a Golf TDI. Other possible fuel mizers could be the Ford Festiva, Chevy Cruze & Fiat 500 
Well battery technology in cars is fairly new, considering that the technology has been around for years yet only now are the automakers being forced to implemented into cars. Personally I think it's going to be a while until we see rechargeable stations left and right but I do think it's a greener technology than that of a hybrid.
Life....it's not about how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit and keep pushing forward, how much you can take and keep pushing forward! - Rocky Balboa
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Posted: 10/13/09 08:58 AM
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Austin.Cooper: I'd still take a pass on both if I had the *** If somebody held a gun to my head though and told me to choose one or die, I'd go with the Volt The reason I picked the Volt is simply because I have no place to recharge the Leaf. Even if I did have a place to recharge the Leaf, I still believe at this point, battery technology still isn't user friendly enough to live with an electric car. I'd still feel more comfortable paying less dollars for a Fit, Insight, Prius or a Golf TDI. Other possible fuel mizers could be the Ford Festiva, Chevy Cruze & Fiat 500 
thesavagepony: Well battery technology in cars is fairly new, considering that the technology has been around for years yet only now are the automakers being forced to implemented into cars. Personally I think it's going to be a while until we see rechargeable stations left and right but I do think it's a greener technology than that of a hybrid.
I agree that battery technology when it comes to powering automobile drive-trains is fairly new in the conventional sense. I believe one of the biggest problems with it in the past was manufacturers had less incentive to develop them when gasoline was more abundant and cheap. It's still a roller coaster ride though. What I mean by that is Nissan and Chevy would have had a better chance selling the Leaf & Volt last year, compared to now
Austin Cooper
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Posted: 10/13/09 09:10 AM
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Austin.Cooper: I'd still take a pass on both if I had the *** If somebody held a gun to my head though and told me to choose one or die, I'd go with the Volt The reason I picked the Volt is simply because I have no place to recharge the Leaf. Even if I did have a place to recharge the Leaf, I still believe at this point, battery technology still isn't user friendly enough to live with an electric car. I'd still feel more comfortable paying less dollars for a Fit, Insight, Prius or a Golf TDI. Other possible fuel mizers could be the Ford Festiva, Chevy Cruze & Fiat 500 
thesavagepony: Well battery technology in cars is fairly new, considering that the technology has been around for years yet only now are the automakers being forced to implemented into cars. Personally I think it's going to be a while until we see rechargeable stations left and right but I do think it's a greener technology than that of a hybrid.
Austin.Cooper: I agree that battery technology when it comes to powering automobile drive-trains is fairly new in the conventional sense. I believe one of the biggest problems with it in the past was manufacturers had less incentive to develop them when gasoline was more abundant and cheap. It's still a roller coaster ride though. What I mean by that is Nissan and Chevy would have had a better chance selling the Leaf & Volt last year, compared to now 
Yes this is true. However it wasn't until last year when the credit froze, gas prices rose to an all time high, and automakers went into bankrupcty....ahhh those were the good old days!! HAHA. So the Volt would have definitely been a power house last year but what are you gonna do. At this point they should just focus on getting the vehicle right and release it as soon as possible.
Life....it's not about how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit and keep pushing forward, how much you can take and keep pushing forward! - Rocky Balboa
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Posted: 10/13/09 04:46 PM
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Austin.Cooper: I'd still take a pass on both if I had the *** If somebody held a gun to my head though and told me to choose one or die, I'd go with the Volt The reason I picked the Volt is simply because I have no place to recharge the Leaf. Even if I did have a place to recharge the Leaf, I still believe at this point, battery technology still isn't user friendly enough to live with an electric car. I'd still feel more comfortable paying less dollars for a Fit, Insight, Prius or a Golf TDI. Other possible fuel mizers could be the Ford Festiva, Chevy Cruze & Fiat 500 
thesavagepony: Well battery technology in cars is fairly new, considering that the technology has been around for years yet only now are the automakers being forced to implemented into cars. Personally I think it's going to be a while until we see rechargeable stations left and right but I do think it's a greener technology than that of a hybrid.
Austin.Cooper: I agree that battery technology when it comes to powering automobile drive-trains is fairly new in the conventional sense. I believe one of the biggest problems with it in the past was manufacturers had less incentive to develop them when gasoline was more abundant and cheap. It's still a roller coaster ride though. What I mean by that is Nissan and Chevy would have had a better chance selling the Leaf & Volt last year, compared to now 
thesavagepony: Yes this is true. However it wasn't until last year when the credit froze, gas prices rose to an all time high, and automakers went into bankrupcty....ahhh those were the good old days!! HAHA. So the Volt would have definitely been a power house last year but what are you gonna do. At this point they should just focus on getting the vehicle right and release it as soon as possible.
With all the talk and PR GM has put into the Volt already, I'd be shocked if they canceled the project. Even if they do green light it, they won't be the only automaker with a plug in hybrid on the market, just the first. From everything I've heard about the projected price so far, they might want to concentrate advertising its 230 MPG more than anything else. All I know is they need to make this vehicle a viable alternative to the Prius.
Nissan needs to accomplish the same mission too. I heard the Leaf can go 100 miles on a single charge and will sticker for somewhere in the $30K range. Maybe there will be more to the whole story when it hits the market. If nothing changes though, I can't see much of a market for the Leaf, for the time being at least. Of course I have no clue what economic conditions will be like when both these vehicles hit the market.
Austin Cooper
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Posted: 10/15/09 11:06 AM
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Austin.Cooper: I'd still take a pass on both if I had the *** If somebody held a gun to my head though and told me to choose one or die, I'd go with the Volt The reason I picked the Volt is simply because I have no place to recharge the Leaf. Even if I did have a place to recharge the Leaf, I still believe at this point, battery technology still isn't user friendly enough to live with an electric car. I'd still feel more comfortable paying less dollars for a Fit, Insight, Prius or a Golf TDI. Other possible fuel mizers could be the Ford Festiva, Chevy Cruze & Fiat 500 
thesavagepony: Well battery technology in cars is fairly new, considering that the technology has been around for years yet only now are the automakers being forced to implemented into cars. Personally I think it's going to be a while until we see rechargeable stations left and right but I do think it's a greener technology than that of a hybrid.
Austin.Cooper: I agree that battery technology when it comes to powering automobile drive-trains is fairly new in the conventional sense. I believe one of the biggest problems with it in the past was manufacturers had less incentive to develop them when gasoline was more abundant and cheap. It's still a roller coaster ride though. What I mean by that is Nissan and Chevy would have had a better chance selling the Leaf & Volt last year, compared to now 
thesavagepony: Yes this is true. However it wasn't until last year when the credit froze, gas prices rose to an all time high, and automakers went into bankrupcty....ahhh those were the good old days!! HAHA. So the Volt would have definitely been a power house last year but what are you gonna do. At this point they should just focus on getting the vehicle right and release it as soon as possible.
Austin.Cooper: With all the talk and PR GM has put into the Volt already, I'd be shocked if they canceled the project. Even if they do green light it, they won't be the only automaker with a plug in hybrid on the market, just the first. From everything I've heard about the projected price so far, they might want to concentrate advertising its 230 MPG more than anything else. All I know is they need to make this vehicle a viable alternative to the Prius.
Nissan needs to accomplish the same mission too. I heard the Leaf can go 100 miles on a single charge and will sticker for somewhere in the $30K range. Maybe there will be more to the whole story when it hits the market. If nothing changes though, I can't see much of a market for the Leaf, for the time being at least. Of course I have no clue what economic conditions will be like when both these vehicles hit the market.
Well the Volt already has the green light. As for the 230mpgs..well the problem with that is that there isn't a set system to determine the milage on an electric car. Until one of they decide to put a standard for mileage reading on electric cars, neither the Volt and Leaf can assure the public that they can reach the amount of MPG's that they have stated.
Life....it's not about how hard you can hit but how hard you can get hit and keep pushing forward, how much you can take and keep pushing forward! - Rocky Balboa
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Posted: 10/15/09 05:50 PM
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Austin.Cooper: I'd still take a pass on both if I had the *** If somebody held a gun to my head though and told me to choose one or die, I'd go with the Volt The reason I picked the Volt is simply because I have no place to recharge the Leaf. Even if I did have a place to recharge the Leaf, I still believe at this point, battery technology still isn't user friendly enough to live with an electric car. I'd still feel more comfortable paying less dollars for a Fit, Insight, Prius or a Golf TDI. Other possible fuel mizers could be the Ford Festiva, Chevy Cruze & Fiat 500 
thesavagepony: Well battery technology in cars is fairly new, considering that the technology has been around for years yet only now are the automakers being forced to implemented into cars. Personally I think it's going to be a while until we see rechargeable stations left and right but I do think it's a greener technology than that of a hybrid.
Austin.Cooper: I agree that battery technology when it comes to powering automobile drive-trains is fairly new in the conventional sense. I believe one of the biggest problems with it in the past was manufacturers had less incentive to develop them when gasoline was more abundant and cheap. It's still a roller coaster ride though. What I mean by that is Nissan and Chevy would have had a better chance selling the Leaf & Volt last year, compared to now 
thesavagepony: Yes this is true. However it wasn't until last year when the credit froze, gas prices rose to an all time high, and automakers went into bankrupcty....ahhh those were the good old days!! HAHA. So the Volt would have definitely been a power house last year but what are you gonna do. At this point they should just focus on getting the vehicle right and release it as soon as possible.
Austin.Cooper: With all the talk and PR GM has put into the Volt already, I'd be shocked if they canceled the project. Even if they do green light it, they won't be the only automaker with a plug in hybrid on the market, just the first. From everything I've heard about the projected price so far, they might want to concentrate advertising its 230 MPG more than anything else. All I know is they need to make this vehicle a viable alternative to the Prius.
Nissan needs to accomplish the same mission too. I heard the Leaf can go 100 miles on a single charge and will sticker for somewhere in the $30K range. Maybe there will be more to the whole story when it hits the market. If nothing changes though, I can't see much of a market for the Leaf, for the time being at least. Of course I have no clue what economic conditions will be like when both these vehicles hit the market.
thesavagepony: Well the Volt already has the green light. As for the 230mpgs..well the problem with that is that there isn't a set system to determine the milage on an electric car. Until one of they decide to put a standard for mileage reading on electric cars, neither the Volt and Leaf can assure the public that they can reach the amount of MPG's that they have stated.
When it comes to pure electrics, I'm not worried that the EPA doesn't have a system to measure their efficiency. All I really want to know is how long they take to charge and what kind of distance they can travel on that charge?
When it comes to plug ins though, I have read about some systems that the EPA might adopt to measure MPG. I can't say for sure what the final figures might look like on the Volt. But you know unless the EPA adopts some kind of screwy system, the measurements on the Volt will come out higher than the Prius or any existing diesel MPG. If they don't, GM might just want to use all the $$$ they spent on the Volt as a tax write off
Austin Cooper
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