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akriener akriener
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/20/08
09:43 PM

I am looking a getting a decent vehicle here in a year or two and I am struggling between several choices...It's going to be used and I'm hoping for 40,000 miles and under...
I really would like a convertible, hard top preferably.  I've done a little researching via, ebay motors, and and you can get a nice MB SLK for around $25-40 thousand or a 2003/2004/2005 SL if you're lucky for anywhere from $30-$50 thousand...I told myself I want a MB but other vehicles keep me looking. Something about Porsche keeps drawing me back, I don't know what it is!



Please give me your thoughts including highs and lows of the various vehicles..people who currently own or have owned would be great to hear from..thanks!  

marc.noordeloos marc.noordeloos
User | Posts: 174 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 09/22/08
01:48 PM

I'd go for a well taken care of Boxster. They are better to drive than the Mercedes SL and SLK. Don't get a Cayenne. A 911 is wonderful but I don't really like the 996 version as it isn't as good as the 993 or 997. Plus, a Boxster is cheaper.  

akriener akriener
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/25/08
12:10 AM

Ok...I probably wont be able to afford a 911 What is wrong with the cayenne?  

marc.noordeloos marc.noordeloos
User | Posts: 174 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 09/25/08
09:18 AM

I think you mean the Cayman (the Cayenne is the overweight Porsche SUV).

There is nothing wrong with the Cayman, it's brilliant. Add that one to the list if you aren't looking for a convertible.  

akriener akriener
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/25/08
11:37 AM

I know the cayenne is the suv...i probably should have specified haha.  

car890 car890
New User | Posts: 12 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/29/08
06:30 AM

No offense but I have read that SLK is a good car but Boxster is a good car too. I think it depends on your preference for a car

marc.noordeloos marc.noordeloos
User | Posts: 174 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 09/29/08
10:54 AM

The Cayenne just didn't fit in with the rest of your list. The Cayenne is just too big and heavy. Plus, it isn't very pretty. If you really want an SUV than the Cayenne is one of the better to drive but it's still an SUV. I'd much prefer a Mercedes E63 Wagon.  

kenk123 kenk123
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/29/08
04:04 PM

Can't advise you on your taste, but I can advise you to check out the on-line car buying videos at I used info attained on a new SL and saved thousands. Good luck!  

akriener akriener
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/29/08
08:16 PM

ok i will check those videos out  

monoblocks monoblocks
User | Posts: 73 | Joined: 06/08
Posted: 09/30/08
04:44 PM

It's hard to tell what your focus is by the range of cars listed. I know what my choice is (one look at my avatar should clue you in), but if you're looking for a vert I assume it's 'look-at-me' cruising you're after and not track day events that you crave.

I don't follow Benzes all that much, but I know a couple of persons who love their SLs. I have ZERO idea on what a used one goes for these days.

The Boxster is a great all-around car, as long as room for anything other than you and your passenger isn't important. Stay away from early year cars and you should be safe. Many Boxsters model years are relatively cheap even now and in two years it will only get cheaper still. Unfortunately they don't hold their value, so if you go this route just go out and have FUN with the car and not worry about any sort of resale value.

The 911 is a different animal, but only slightly. Early examples of the Type 997 in two years should easily be in your projected price range. The prior Type 996 (the ones with the scrambled egg headlamps) are already at or below your price targets. A lot of people show little love for this model type--myself included--but they really are sporting cars that do outperform the older air-cooled cars like my Type 993. But their biggest issue is whether you can trust their reliability.

The 996 has a bad reputation for engine problems, particularly for rear main seal failures (RMS) and with early vintage cars (mostly MY1999, though some 2000 cars have been reported as well), cylinder liner cracking. There are also issues with intermediate shaft alignment/bearing failure issues, which when it happens means you're buying a NEW($$$) engine. With the RMS leaking problem, it seems to affect a lot of cars, and sometimes is considered an indicator of pending shaft bearing problems depending on who on the internet you choose to believe. These issues have only gone to deeply depress 996 values (plus, Porsche made a TON of the things). It's not entirely certain but later facelifted 996s (US MY2002 and later) might actually be more reliable than the earlier cars, since the RMS went through a number of redesigns by then to attempt to cure the oil leakage issues (though apparently to some sources, it's also questionable as to how successful any of these revisions really are).

Both 996s and 997s have been criticized for having rather cheapishly made interiors, the 996 being by far the worse offender of the two. Material quality is often the biggest complaint, but build quality has been cited as well. I know when I've been in either car, I've always thought that earlier 911s have felt more rock solid, even if the look and appointments are more barren and dated. The thing is that the older cars were essentially hand-built, whereas the later 996, 997 and Boxster show their mass-made, assembly-line roots more blatantly.

As for earlier 911s...I'd recommend them but be warned: you better have a strong stomach for hefty repair bills. The air-cooled cars are now over a decade old and will be another two years on by the time you buy one. Arguably the best-looking 911s ever built, the Type 993 is a pretty dependable car...but it IS old and things do start to wear down. Downtime will be a given in this vintage. Moreover, I wouldn't necessarily recommend a cabriolet from this era, either. 993s are rather tightly wound, and the sorts of rattles and chassis noises a minimum decade-old vert will invariably make may cause you to wish that you bought a NEWER car. The good thing is that 993 cabs are generally cheaper than their coupe siblings. Air-cooled values--including the 993--have firmed up quite a bit over the past year. With the last cars there's still some depreciation happening, but it seems that it's slowed considerably and even in some markets the prices of nicely kept 993s has actually risen. But with the economy on the verge as it is, who knows if this will last.

As for the SUV...not in my house. What limited info I have on them is that they aren't necessarily the most reliable rigs out there. Not as bad as Range Rovers can be known to be, but nothing close to challenging the dependability of a plain Toyota or Honda SUV. And repair work on Porsche SUVs are generally done by the dealer(cha-ching$$$); not many private Porsche specialist shops concentrate on servicing and maintaining Cayennes.  

akriener akriener
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 09/30/08
09:33 PM

Cool thanks for the info...yes I imagine german parts are expensive, but then again BMW and mercedes are both kind of convinced me to avoid the porsches just due to the high owner cost...any thoughts on an infiniti g37 or lexus is?  

marc.noordeloos marc.noordeloos
User | Posts: 174 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 10/01/08
02:23 PM

Yes, impressive reply monoblocks.

Regarding the G37 and IS. No question about it, the G37 drives better than the Lexus. Still, the G's V-6 gets very rough at high RPMs.

Don't be too scared of Porsche repairs. I would look for Boxster.  

akriener akriener
New User | Posts: 6 | Joined: 09/08
Posted: 10/01/08
08:21 PM

Ok I will definitely keep an eye out for the boxster...i really would like the car to have navigation though and ive noticed there are a lot of boxsters out there without navigation...though i am having trouble finding a slk with low miles with navigation as well...the sl obviously not a problem lol. the only other thing is the porsche interior doesn't seem that exciting...

So if i decide to go with Mercedes should i shoot for a newer slk with lower miles and not necessarily the options i would like or get a sl with more miles with the options guaranteed?

Also I am thinking about bmw...kind of. 3 series convertible...5 series...and 6 series...ive heard people say the 6 is ugly as hell but i like it for some not sure if the 5 series is too "family" or older people looking lol..i seriously cant decide between a sedan and a coupe/convertible.  

marc.noordeloos marc.noordeloos
User | Posts: 174 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 10/02/08
12:28 PM

I always say go for lower mileage/newer vehicle instead of a ton of options but it's your call. Some older navigation units can be outdated (unable to get updated maps) so I'm not sure I'd put that option too high on your list. A Tom Tom or similar unit will most likely serve you better.

I'm not a big fan of the 6-series as the 3-series drives better and has more room inside. Plus, it's better looking. We haven't had the best luck with BMWs at the office as they seem to have quite a few problems. Wonderful cars to drive though.  

j_rossdale j_rossdale
New User | Posts: 46 | Joined: 11/08
Posted: 11/27/08
02:53 AM

both are good but i prefer the Porsche looks..  
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