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Jamie Kitman

billet01 billet01
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 03/16/07
12:25 PM

1960's, I read Road and Track.  In the 70's I added Car and Driver, then followed David E and Mean Jean to Automobile.  The writing was THAT good, and edgy.  David E is gone to Winding Road, Jean got married and is buried in responsibility, and that left Jamie Kitman as the sole author of the old school who did not mind offending any or all in his discussion of cars and issues.  It appeared that he had been muzzled and I had decided to allow my subscription to lapse. The edge and the fun was gone.  Now, he is back.  Editors allowed his recent article because he wrote about himself.  NOW, let's see them turn him loose to write freely about anything in the automotive scene that moves him.  

pordy pordy
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 03/20/07
02:31 PM

Thank God Kitman is back...  

Idiot Boy Idiot Boy
User | Posts: 55 | Joined: 12/06
Posted: 05/10/07
05:00 AM


Stelios Stelios
User | Posts: 105 | Joined: 03/07
Posted: 05/10/07
09:20 AM

Kitman is brilliant. His article Life in the Green Lane was one of the best things I've read in a long time.  

mikey683 mikey683
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 12/07
Posted: 12/07/07
02:03 PM

Well gee you hate LA. What a moronic editorial. I'm from New York and have lived in LA for 16 years. Through the riots and the earthquakes. Pulling out those myopic tired cliches of LA as cultural wasteland, so you've seen a Woody Allen movie. No LA isn't New York. Newsflash: most of the culture the world sees that is "American", comes from LA! Oh by the way service people tend to be attentive to jerks like you because they make their living off of tips. This is LA I doubt they were that impressed with the car. Since you write for a car magazine, who really cares what you think of any city?  

jdhilton jdhilton
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 01/08
Posted: 01/02/08
07:22 AM

As Automobile's resident green grumpy, I knew Kitman would share my disappointment about the upsizing of the Scion XB. But I was stunned to read his writeup on the fuel cell Equinox. Just yesterday I'd been making flattering comparisons between the car mags and the pack of fools in the general media when it comes to eco issues--and then Jamie slips in the parenthetical "(...not all sources [of hydrogen] are totally green.)"

Jamie, I believe that sentence should read "(...most sources are not remotely green.") Hydrogen is produced from natural gas or electricity, neither of which qualifies as green. (And don't go quoting Consumer Reports about how California gets most of its electricity from renewables--I checked, and it's not remotely true.)

Short of nuclear fusion, hydrogen is not a souce of energy--it's just a new way to transmit it. Why is it so hard to get this through our heads?  

Austin_Coope Austin_Coope
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 03/08
Posted: 03/29/08
04:59 PM

Kitman is one of the best things about Automobile Magazine.  I loved his latest column regarding Cadillac abandoning their Northstar V8.  

keyjack30 keyjack30
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 04/08
Posted: 04/07/08
01:48 PM

Yes... His article on cadillac's demise of the V8 was spot on.  

jmerrithew jmerrithew
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 05/08
Posted: 05/27/08
07:39 AM

Its not hard to tell where the automobile journalism ends and lobbying for your mortgage payment begins with Mr. Kitman.  I'm just not sure he's lobbying for Saudi Arabia or the autoworkers union.

From people who have worked on the car, albeit those who install aftermarket equipment because what comes with the car is such poor quality, it is pretty unanimous that the Cadillac will never be in the off-continent class of quality.  Writing about American cars, it must be unusual for Mr. Kitman to criticize a company for overeaching.

It is time to expect more from American automobile makers than to continuously try to fulfill our teenage hormonal tendencies; which, by the way, teach us that anticipation is most often better than reality.  More speed per cylinder, more quality per pound, and more miles per gallon.  Let the Cadillac reach that goal and become a mature worldclass automobile. Shocked  

gybognarjr gybognarjr
New User | Posts: 25 | Joined: 01/08
Posted: 06/26/08
12:20 PM

I am sure many people agree with Mr. Kitman, that every possible problem should be traced to George Bush, the Media has pounded it into the brains of the population all over the World.  Sadly this comfortable attitude allows the real culprits to escape attention.
Before fingers are pointed, we should think and admit, that we are the guilty, collectively, we create the problems and we elect those who should solve them.  Unfortunately we are all too lazy and we also lack the time to verify the misleading and illogical, often stupid statement the Media feeds us and so we perpetuate incompetency in Government and Big Business.  

brainy435 brainy435
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 06/08
Posted: 06/27/08
10:02 PM

So my Automobile arrives in the mail yesterday and I retire to the throne to relax and to see which wonderfully designed vehicle Ford's bean-counters will destroy next. I did not expect to have some elitist snob p*ss me straight off with his smarmy ignorance. I put the magazine down right after reading the travesty that is "A worrisome view: big oil wears the pants, and its XXL trousers are riding low." I figured I must have misunderstood the intent... no one could be that wrong. Maybe it was satire? Well, I picked it back up today and the article wasn't as bad as I had feared. It was actually worse.

It starts off alright, at least Kitman listened enough during basic economics to allow him to admit the realities of supply and demand. But after that first sentence he loses all contact with either truthfulness or sanity. "Yet somehow, gasoline prices are skyrocketing at a time when the current supply is adequate." Really, "adequate?" Curious choice. Not rising. Not steady. Not even dropping slower than the rise in demand. Just "adequate," which ironically is not an adequate word to use to justify his point. Output is dropping worldwide while at the same time demand is rising worldwide. Which brings that supply and demand thing back into the debate, no?

The rest of the article is tired liberal boilerplate. Oil companies are evil, socialism is good, day is night, black is white, yadda yadda yadda. He calls Exxon's 1Q 2008 profit a record, when it is not. Exxon actually earned 11.7 billion in 4Q 2007, meaning the company's profit DECREASED in the first 3 months of this year while oil and gas prices increased steadily, pretty much derailing his whole argument. From the article:"The company said significantly lower worldwide refining margins reduced earnings by about $1 billion in the quarter." So Exxon is currently making less per gallon of gasoline they sell, and making up for it by selling oil to other refiners at the higher market price, in turn decreasing those companies margins. This creates higher gasoline prices worldwide. I'd really be interested to see what kind of margins Source Interlink Media gets. If they are higher than Exxon's, I wonder if he would accept a cut in salary to pay for a windfall profits tax on SIM? In fact, if I were to engage in the same out of context ranting I could note that the SIM Magazine Fulfillment Segment had for the year ending January 31, 2008 "...revenue of $950.2 million, compared with $809.8 million in the prior year period, an increase of 17.4%" Wow, that's actually a bigger increase in revenue than Exxon when according to Kitman transportation of goods is being driven up by the evil oil companies. So I'm getting gouged at the newsstand worse than I am at the pump. I'm calling my Congressman.

That doesn't even begin to address the insanity of his position on ethanol. Kitman manages to be incredulous that people would dare argue that the US converting 25% of it's corn crop to ethanol would affect food prices.

Worse yet is the incredible lack of thought regarding drilling. After remarking on supply and demand in his very first sentence, it has apparently long since been a victim of a senior moment. After all, increasing the SUPPLY to help meet the DEMAND can't have anything to do with the basic economics of... uh.. supply and demand. And, naturally, he thinks we should nationalize the oil industry, too. Mostly because government hasn't screwed up the economy enough by refusing to allow new sources of energy over the last 3 decades, and because it is working so well with Chavez in Venezuela. In fact, most estimates say we can get 1 million barrels/day out of ANWR alone, just about enough to replace the oil we have to buy from that crackpot, who happens to be our 4th largest supplier of oil. I guess national security is as low a priority for Mr. Kitman as letting poor people eat.

Oh, yeah, along the way he also complains that Bush is Hitler, Iraq is Vietnam and Halliburton makes oil by skinning puppies alive. Or something like that, I can barely stand to pay attention to the drivel at this point. All I know is that he somehow manages to forget to discuss how increasing oil output from Iraq could help lower fuel prices. Convenient, that.

So most of you are quite a bit older now than when you started reading my ravings, and many if not most of you are rather angry at me. That's not exactly going to cause me to lose any sleep tonight. If you want to argue my facts or my logic or my utter lack of logic, that's fine. I wrote this because when I pay for a magazine about a passion of mine, in this case cars, I don't really feel like being lied to by someone trying to make a point he can't support with truthful statements or his own lifestyle decisions. And I damned sure don't want to be lied to by a fool who contradicts himself at every turn. If Mr. Kitman wants to save the environment he can drop a few of his pre-emissions-controls vehicles, buy a vehicle with a better than 21/27 EPA fuel economy rating his Elise gets, or stop driving all over the country to participate in hydrocarbon guzzling auto tests. All things he has boasted of in the last 2 months alone. If that ever happens I might be willing to ignore his deranged anti-Disney World, anti-Oil company... basically anti-business... tirades, but not before. I don't buy a luxury item like an auto magazine to be p*ssed off. Well, except maybe by the Big Three, but that's not the magazines fault. If you want to challenge me, shame me, try and persuade me, fine. DO NOT lie to me.  

monoblocks monoblocks
User | Posts: 73 | Joined: 06/08
Posted: 06/28/08
09:52 AM

Figures it would be the Kitman thread that doesn't render correctly.  

Idiot Boy Idiot Boy
User | Posts: 55 | Joined: 12/06
Posted: 07/05/08
03:25 AM

Long live Jamie Kitman!  

rblackwell rblackwell
User | Posts: 71 | Joined: 10/06
Posted: 07/08/08
10:05 AM

"He calls Exxon's 1Q 2008 profit a record, when it is not. Exxon actually earned 11.7 billion in 4Q 2007, meaning the company's profit DECREASED in the first 3 months of this year while oil and gas prices increased steadily, pretty much derailing his whole argument."

Actually, ExxonMobil's Q1 2008 profit WAS a QUARTERLY record for first-quarter Exxon profits.

Brainy, I'd expect someone as knowledgeable as you to know that comparing sales/profits/etc from different times of year can be an apples-to-oranges exercise, since people's earnings and spending habits/needs vary from season to season.

As a reminder, the relevant part of Kitman's column reads: "... ExxonMobil revealed a first-quarter 2008 net income of only $10.9 billion, a mere 17 percent increase in quarterly profit from last year's record ..."

It seems clear to me that this statement is discussing Q1 earnings, but I'm sorry if you found it misleading.  

jsmickey jsmickey
New User | Posts: 1 | Joined: 07/08
Posted: 07/08/08
07:32 PM

I know that Bush Bashing is very popular and in your ranting against Bush and "Big Oil" you seem to be a Bush hater but why can't you be honest and spread the blame to all who deserve it. The Democrats in Congress are just as much to blame as Bush and the oil companies.
When the Democrats won majorities in both the House and Senate, one of the first things that came out of Nancy Peloci's mouth is that she and the rest of the Democrats had "a plan" to reduce the price of oil. After almost 2 years the only "Plan" that has come out of Congress is to sue OPEC. Give me a break. Is that the best they can come up with.
Not to long ago Barak Obama stated that the only problem he has with high oil prices is how fast they have have risen. How helpful is that attitude going to be for us who are being squeezed by gas prices if he gets into the White House?
And how hippocrital is it for the Democrats to condem oil company profits when the Washington makes more money off of a gallon gas in the form of taxes than the oil companies. And they are talking about raising taxes even higher, all of which will be passed on to us in the form of even higher prices.
Truth is, if they had the guts to admit it, most of the more liberal Democrats want even higher prices as a way to push us to alternative form of energy.
Do I think that Bush has done much of anything to keep the price of oil lower than it is? NO. Do I thing we are being ripped off? YES Will things change when Bush is out of office? NO.
Come on Kitman. Be a man and show some guts. Grow up and get over your hatred for Bush. Do something that few in your industry seem capable of doing. Be an objective journalist. Spread the blame around to ALL who deserve it not just to those you hate.  

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